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Helps a lot. Thanks sso much.

Good, Kathleen. I loved your “reader response” notion of how the poem is completed by being read. And so even the poem evolves into a new (creativity) poem as a reader herself changes and so rereads the poem differently thereby making a new poem.

I thought the first line of the 3rd stanza (“no outer space, just space”) was especially effective in showing the speaker’s unity with all outside her. And also the lines “And all of us, and everything/Already there”

I love Blake, too, but didn’t realize that he continued the motifs of lamb and tyger.

Good point, Kathleen, that experiencing all of the concrescence would drive us nuts. I’m wondering if there’re higher levels of organzition that clump together a bunch of active occassions that we can experience.

As to your question whether meditative-state = mystical-experience, I’ve equated them. But in my meditative experience, I don’t do any kind of transcending, just relaxtion. That wouldn’t be a meditative state would it?

Hmmm. Intersting point, Kathleen. Are we’re saying Panentheism has one Ultimate Reality, God, and Process Thought has two Ultimate Realities, God plus Creativity?

Chris’ post has raised a good question, which seems to pit Whitehead’s philosophy against Existentialist philosophy. I wonder how Whitehead would address that. It does seem that the experience in society today is one of alienation (along with the other two A’s, anxiety and anger).

[I also posted this reply as a new topic, which I thought we were supposed to do so Jay could easily monitor our participation. But then that would not have let Chris know that I had replied.]